Explaining Hip Hop History To A "NEWBIE"!

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Explaining Hip Hop History To A "NEWBIE"!

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Daca ar fi sa creati o compilatie menita sa ilustreze istoria hip hop'ului, ce piese ati include si de ce?
Urmatoarea va fi drept exemplu! Incercati a comprima totul astfel incat compozitia sa contina maxim 25 de piese. Fiindca daca va intindeti prea mult, n-o sa va mai opriti. Stiu ca lipsesc The Message, Geto Boys, ATCQ, De La, Company Flow, BDP, Lauryn Hill s.a.m.d., dar asta se va intampla pe Vol. II!
01. Sugarhill Gang - Rappers Delight
Nu necesita prea multe explicatii, dar poate unii nu stiu. Sunt primii ce-au samplat in hip hop (1979), sample'lul fiind luat de la Chic's "Good Times".

02. Africa Bambatta - Planet Rock
Chiar si acum, a ramas printre joint'urile mele preferatele hiphop/electro.
Comprima perfect esenta hip hop'ului, plus de asta merge dansata.

03. Run DMC : Sucker MC's
Run DMC nu mi-au placut tot timpul, abia in momentul in care le-am ascultat albumele cu atentie. Albumul lor de debut chiar a schimbat rap'ul pentru totdeauna, productia fiind atat de diferita, comparand-o cu orice altceva din vremea aceea.

04. Eric B & Rakim - I Ain't No Joke
Daca Run DMC au sunat altfel din punctul de vedere al productie, pentru mine, nu exista dubii cum ca Rakim a fost primul ce-a schimbat intru totul emceeing'ul.

05. Public Enemy - Black Steel In The Hour of Chaos
Cea mai reusita piesa de pe cel mai clasic album! O voce puternica, perfecta as spune, impletindu-se perfect pe fuziunea de jazz-soul-rock-funk! Esential!

06. NWA - Fuck Tha Police
Gangsta rap'ul putea la fel de simplu prezentat prin Ice T sau Schooly D, dar nu la fel de bine prin NWA si impactul ce l-au avut acestia la vremea respectiva!

07. Ice Cube - The Nigga Ya Love To Hate
Imi place si mi-a placut foarte mult. Iar AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted e primul album de marca East/West cu adevarat notabil!

08. Slick Rick - Childrens Story
Storytelling la cel mai inalt nivel!

09. MC Lyte - The 10% Dis
Nu poti sa expui istoria rap'ului fara a introduce femeia! Si cine ar fi mai binevenita decat Lyte?

10. Dr Dre & Snoop Dogg - Nuthin But A "G" Thang
Lasand deoparte faptul ca e o piesa reusita, sound'ul albumelor chiar s-a schimbat de atunci, ca sa nu mai vorbim de radio'uri.

11. Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M
Nu puteam sa nu amintesc, cred ca Wu-Tang am ascultat cu totii, iar pe unii, aceasta trupa, posibil sa-i fi format! Puteam la fel de bine sa includ Black Moon, dar sincera sa fiu, 36 Chambers e un album mai bun, care a sufocat putin hip hop'ul pe atunci.

12. Nas - It Ain't Hard To Tell
Simplu, doar o piesa formidabila pe unul dintre cele mai bune albume ever!

13. Notorious BIG - Mo Money Mo Problems
Semnifica mai mult sau mai putin inceputul erei Jiggy, nu e printre piesele mele preferate, da-mi doream a nu-i eluda pe Diddy si Mase.

14. OutKast - Elevators
O piesa foarte tare din toate punctele de vedere. E greu sa ne gandim ca Neptunes nu o aveau pe repeat.

15. DMX feat Sheek - Get At Me Dog
O frumoasa intoarcere la soud'ul new-yorkez, pacat ca celor de la Ruff Ryders nu le-a iesit niciodata asa ceva!

16. Blackstar feat Common - Respiration
Explozia rapului indie (independent). Ne-o fi dor de acest feeling...

17. Eminem - My Name Is
Hate It or Love It, Marshall Mathers semnifica o mare parte din istoria rapului modern.

18. Jay-Z - Izzo (H.O.V.A)
Nu poti alcatui o lista ca aceasta fara a-l aminti pe Jay-Z. E albumul sau cel mai zdravan, si nu in ultimul rand, cel ce l-a facut vedeta!

19. Dj Shadow - You Can't Go Home Again
Hip hop'ul instrumental nu a sunat niciodata atat de interesant, exaltant!

20. 50 Cent - In da Club
O piesa nu prea buna, dar care a avut un impact colosal. Albumul e destul de reusit!

21. David Banner feat Lil Flip - Like A Pimp
Cand vine vorba de crunk, Banner mi se pare cel mai bun. (cateodata Lil Jon ii atinge nivelul din punct de vedere al productie, dar liric niciodata!)

22. Sage Francis - Inherited Scars
Cel mai reusit album scos vreodata la anticon! N-ai cum sa te saturi! Ce-nseamna trompeta!...

23. Kanye West - Jesus Walks
Nu sunt incantata de ce face Kanye, dar trebuie recunoscut ca detine doua albume reusite, si de altfel e implicat in multe proiecte pe care le laudam/le vom lauda cu siguranta. Puteam include la fel de bine o piesa de pe Be, dar, din pacate, in cativa ani nimeni nu-si va mai aminti de acel album. Iar aici chiar n-as vrea sa fiu contrazisa!

24. Madvillain - Rhinestone Cowboy
MD Domm n-a mai sunat atat de bine de pe Vaudeville Villain. Productia lui Madlib reusind a-i fructifica pe deplin calitatile!

25. Gnarls Barkley - St Elsewhere
Cumparati originalul!
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Dr Dre - Nuthin but a G Thang

...cam atat :)
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sa nu uitam de bboy's!! Apache a celor de la The Incredible Bongo Band, Come Clean a lui Jeru!!! Jump Around a celor de la House Of Pain care si in zilele noatre se mai aude in cluburi si discoteci si lumea sare pe ea ca in '92, Regulate Warren G. & Nate Dogg, cea mai de succes piesa G-Funk... nush.. tre sa ma gandesc si poate revin si eu in viitor apropiat cu 25 de piese cu tot cu explicatiile de rigoare :wink:
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se vrea un topic serios. va rog mult, daca postati, respectati si cerintele din primul meu post.
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Am facut o chestie asemanatoare cu ceva timp in urma. Suna cam asa ..

1. The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper's Delight (7:12)
2. Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five - The Message (7:13)
3. Boogie Down Productions - South Bronx (5:11)
4. Eric B & Rakim - I Know You Got Soul (4:49)
5. Public Enemy - Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos (4:54)
6. Big Daddy Kane - Warm It up Kane (4:13)
7. A Tribe Called Quest - Scenario (4:10)
8. Gang Starr - Step In The Arena (3:37)
9. Das EFX - Mic Checka (4:55)
10. Black Moon - How Many Emcees (Must Get Dissed) (3:40)
11. Lords of the Underground - Chief Rocka (4:07)
12. Onyx - Slam (3:38 )
13. Common - I Used to Love H.E.R. (4:38 )
14. Gravediggaz - 1-800 Suicide (4:16)
15. Group Home - Supa Star (4:17)
16. Jeru tha Damaja - Come Clean (4:24)
17. Mos Def & Talib Kweli - Respiration (6:05)
18. South Central Cartel - All Day Everyday (4:04)
19. Nas - Nas Is Like (3:57)
20. Afu Ra - Lyrical Monster (3:49)
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nu ii potzi face sa intzeleaga rap doar dandu'le nishte piese shi nu o sa intzeleaga ascultand doar 20 de piese ... :) :D
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atipic wrote:nu ii potzi face sa intzeleaga rap doar dandu'le nishte piese shi nu o sa intzeleaga ascultand doar 20 de piese ... :) :D
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N-ai vrut sa prinzi esenta. Piesele astea (pe care le voi urca in curand) sunt puse aici drept calauza. Mai departe [...]. Nu vreau sa inteleaga nimeni nimic. Aici nu e vorba de "a intelege". Hip hop'ul nu se intelege! (cunoscand limba) Ideea era ca unii trebuie educati, exemple vezi la threadu' new comerilor. Unii stiu sa simta, vor sa simta, doar ca trebuie putin ghidati.
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12. Nas - It Ain't Hard To Tell
Simplu, doar o piesa formidabila pe unul dintre cele mai bune albume ever!


...... k tare bine ai zis :D
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1 . 2pac- Letter 2 my unborn child
2 . Big L - Platinum
3 . Black moon - this is what it sounds like
4 . Company Flow - 8 Steps to Perfection
5 . Craig mack- flava in ya ear
6 . Cypress Hill - Dr Dedoverde
7 . Das Efx - Raw Breed
8 . Dr Dre - Nuthin' but a 'G' Thang
9 . Fugees - ready or not
10. Gang Starr - Above The Clouds
11. Group Home - livin' proof
12. IAM - Nes Sous La Meme Etoile
13. Immortal technique - dance with the devil
14. Jay-Z - Hard Knock Life
15. Jaylib - the red
16. Kanye west - Two Words
17. Krs one - freedom
18. Loop Troop - Fly Away
19. Mobb deep - hell on earth
20. Nas - One mic
21. Pitch black - its all real
22. Rakim - When I B On Tha Mic
23. Royce da 59 - hip hop
24. The pharcyde - runnin'
25. Wu tang clan - C.r.e.a.m.
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Rico, pe cand o lansare ?
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se apropie cu pasi repezi. :D
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TuPac e pe Volumul II.
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albumul care l-a facut vedeta pe Jay Z din cate stiam e Reasonable Doubt :)

In fine uitati si lista mea...am pus 25 de piese..ordinea nu conteaza..piesele conteaza :D

01. Sugarhill Gang - Rappers Delight
02. 2 Pac feat. Dr.Dre - California Love
03. 50 Cent - In Da Club
04. A Tribe Called Quest - Find A Way
05. Big Daddy Kane - Another Victory
06. Bone Thugs'N'Harmony - Tha Crossroads
07. Brand Nubian - The Travel Jam
08. Busta Rhymes - Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Could See
09. Cam'Ron feat. Mase - Horse & Carriage
10. Capone'N'Noreaga - Black Gangstaz
11. Common Sense - I Used To Love H E R
12. Coolio - Gangstaz Paradise
13. Craig Mack feat. Notorious BIG, P. Diddy, Total, Rampage, LL Cool J & Busta Rhymes - Flava In Ya Ear (remix)
14. Cypress Hil - Insane In The Brain
15. EPMD - Never Seen Before
16. De La Soul feat. MF Doom - Rock Co.Kane Flow
17. Defari - Big Up
18. Diamond D - MC Iz My Ambition
19. Dilated Peoples - Worst Comes TO Worst
20. Dj Honda feat. Guru & Dj Premier - What You Expected
21. Dj Shadow - Six Days
22. DMX - Ruff Ryders Anthem
23. Dr. Dre feat. Snoop Dogg - Nuthin' But A G Thang
24. Eazy E feat. Gangsta Dresta - Real Motherfuckin' G's
25. Eminem - The Way I Am
26. Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full
27. Fabolous - Damn
28. Lil'Wayne - Fireman
29. The Fugees - Ready Or Not
30. G Unit - My Buddy
31. Gangstarr - Code Of Da Streets
32. Ghostface Killah - Motherless Child
33. Grandmaster Flash - Adventures On The Weels Of Steel
34. Group Home - Livin' Proof
35. Ice Cube - It Was A Good Day
36. Ice T - I'm Your Pusher
37. Jay Z - Regrets
38. Jeru The Damaja - You Can't Stop The Prophet
39. Kanye West - Through The Wire
40. Keith Murray - Candi Bar
41. Kelis - I Hate You So Much Right Now
42. Eve - Who's That Girl
43. Krs-One - Step Into A World
44. LL Cool J - Funkadelic Relic
45. Mase feat. The Lox, DMX & Black Rob - 24 Hours TO Live
46. Method Man - Judgement Day
47. Missy Elliott - She's A Bitch
48. Mobb Deep feat. Nas - Give It Up Fast
49. M.O.P. - Cold As Ice
50. Mos Def - Ms. Fat Booty
51. Nas - One Love
52. Nate Dogg - Another Sad Story
53. Nelly - #1
54. Notorious BIG - What's Beef
55. P. Diddy feat. Faith Evans - I'll Be Missing You
56. NWA - Fuck The Police
57. Onyx feat. DMX - Shut Em Down
58. Outkast - So Fresh So Clean
59. Pitch Black - It's All Real
60. Public Enemy - Rebel Without A Pause
61. Raekwon feat. Ghostface Killah, Inspectah Deck & Method Man - Ice Cream
62. Rakim - When I Be On The Mic
63. Ruff Ryders feat. Snoop Dogg, Scarface, Yung Wun, Jadakiss & Swizz Beats - World War 3
64. Run Dmc - My Adidas
65. Scarface - On My Block
66. Slick Rick - I Run This
67. Slum Village feat. J Dilla - Reunion
68. Smif-N-Wessun - Wrekonize
69. Snoop Dogg - Serial Killa
70. Spice 1 - 187 He Wrote
71. T.I. - What You Know
72. Talib Kweli feat. Hi-Tek - The Blast
73. Tech N9ne feat. All Stars - The Anthem
74. The Diplomats - Real Niggaz
75. The Game feat. 50 Cent - Hate It Or Love It
76. Vanilal Ice - Ice Ice Baby
77. 2 Live Crew - Fuck Martinez
78. Warren G - Prince Igor
79. Westside Connection - Gangsta Nation
80. Will Smith - Miami
81. Wu Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M.
82. Xzibit - The Foundation
.....

si hai sa ma opresc...

am scris >80 pentru ca doar 20 sau 25 sunt prea putine zic eu pentru ca un new-comer sa inteleaga hip hop-ul :D ....daca asculta astea cu siguranta vor sti ce parte din hip hop le place si ce nu :)
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" 13. Notorious BIG - Mo Money Mo Problems
Semnifica mai mult sau mai putin inceputul erei Jiggy, nu e printre piesele mele preferate, da-mi doream a nu-i eluda pe Diddy si Mase. " - arata foarte putin din ceea ce a "the real" Biggie, un Warning sau orice alt extras de pe Ready to Die era mai binevenit, in rest exceptand pe DMX si pe crunkeri, I can see where u're comming from ...
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